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	<title>Comments on: Scorched Earth Screeds on Citizen vs. Professional Media</title>
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	<description>Jim Long blogs at the intersection of old and new media</description>
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		<title>By: [videoblogging] Jarvis/Rosenblum's scorced earth screeds.</title>
		<link>http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/05/01/scorched-earth-screeds-on-citizen-vs-professional-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator>[videoblogging] Jarvis/Rosenblum's scorced earth screeds.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] of TV news. I spoke to Jamal today and his views are refreshingly more pragamatic. http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/05/01/scorched-earth-screeds-on-citizen-vs-professional-media/ Jim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vergenewmedia.com twitter: newmediajim aim: newmediajim [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Leonard</title>
		<link>http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/05/01/scorched-earth-screeds-on-citizen-vs-professional-media/comment-page-1/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 22:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we&#039;re doing these people a disservice when we label them journalists. Given discussions about how we define journalism we may need to see people who catch moments on camera, audio recorder, etc, less as journalists and more as documenters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we&#8217;re doing these people a disservice when we label them journalists. Given discussions about how we define journalism we may need to see people who catch moments on camera, audio recorder, etc, less as journalists and more as documenters.</p>
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		<title>By: andy carvin</title>
		<link>http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/05/01/scorched-earth-screeds-on-citizen-vs-professional-media/comment-page-1/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>andy carvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 01:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, in the opening section of the video from the DC Web Women event, we were actually debating whether Cho&#039;s video diatribes could be construed as citizen journalism. I was arguing no way, because they have no civic value and only serve prurient interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, in the opening section of the video from the DC Web Women event, we were actually debating whether Cho&#8217;s video diatribes could be construed as citizen journalism. I was arguing no way, because they have no civic value and only serve prurient interest.</p>
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		<title>By: andy carvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy carvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 20:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamal&#039;s comments reminds me of the discussion Jonny Goldstein and I had about citizen journalism at the DC Web Women forum a couple weeks ago. Here&#039;s a clip:

http://tinyurl.com/2nrxm2

 I basically said that journalism is an inherently civic act, and most bloggers don&#039;t see themselves as journalists. They&#039;re using their blogs to write, debate and share ideas, and not necessarily &quot;do journalism.&quot; And those of us who occasionally do civic journalism often don&#039;t see ourselves in those terms. Instead, it&#039;s more like we have moments of drive-by journalism in which people are in the right place at the right time - and with the right equipment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamal&#8217;s comments reminds me of the discussion Jonny Goldstein and I had about citizen journalism at the DC Web Women forum a couple weeks ago. Here&#8217;s a clip:</p>
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<p> I basically said that journalism is an inherently civic act, and most bloggers don&#8217;t see themselves as journalists. They&#8217;re using their blogs to write, debate and share ideas, and not necessarily &#8220;do journalism.&#8221; And those of us who occasionally do civic journalism often don&#8217;t see ourselves in those terms. Instead, it&#8217;s more like we have moments of drive-by journalism in which people are in the right place at the right time &#8211; and with the right equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: SpaceyG</title>
		<link>http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/05/01/scorched-earth-screeds-on-citizen-vs-professional-media/comment-page-1/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>SpaceyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 20:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish we complacent backwater southerners could even use e-mail to commit a little citizen journalism and help expose certain issues in this state/local gov. We seem utterly dependent on the kindness of Big Media/Cox Country journalism. We don&#039;t even have anything worth shutting down when it comes to citizen journalism. A few blogs here and there in Georgia that are swatted at like mosquitoes is all I can think of. The Palestinians are light years ahead of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish we complacent backwater southerners could even use e-mail to commit a little citizen journalism and help expose certain issues in this state/local gov. We seem utterly dependent on the kindness of Big Media/Cox Country journalism. We don&#8217;t even have anything worth shutting down when it comes to citizen journalism. A few blogs here and there in Georgia that are swatted at like mosquitoes is all I can think of. The Palestinians are light years ahead of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosenblum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosenblum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim
Thanks for the pings!  
But I just want to clarify one point. I am also in favor of a blend of pros and &#039;citizens&#039;, In fact, the good &#039;citizens&#039; become pros - the way some writers become professional writers but everyone starts by picking up the pencil and taking a crack at it.  Small cameras allow anyone to do the same in video. In the long run, the best will work their way to the top, and much like the much missed Mr. Halberstam, become professionals.  Ironically, I was hired by the PBC (Palestinian Broadcasting Corp) to build a local TV news op Ramallah about 15 years ago.  We must have done too good a job. Shortly after we opened, our reporters (citizen and otherwise) started to expose corruption in the Palestinian local authority,  Mr. Arafat soon closed down our whole op - and it was not because we were using hi8! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim<br />
Thanks for the pings!<br />
But I just want to clarify one point. I am also in favor of a blend of pros and &#8216;citizens&#8217;, In fact, the good &#8216;citizens&#8217; become pros &#8211; the way some writers become professional writers but everyone starts by picking up the pencil and taking a crack at it.  Small cameras allow anyone to do the same in video. In the long run, the best will work their way to the top, and much like the much missed Mr. Halberstam, become professionals.  Ironically, I was hired by the PBC (Palestinian Broadcasting Corp) to build a local TV news op Ramallah about 15 years ago.  We must have done too good a job. Shortly after we opened, our reporters (citizen and otherwise) started to expose corruption in the Palestinian local authority,  Mr. Arafat soon closed down our whole op &#8211; and it was not because we were using hi8! <img src='http://vergenewmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: WKRN GM quits to join Rosenblum army - b-roll.net FORUM</title>
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		<dc:creator>WKRN GM quits to join Rosenblum army - b-roll.net FORUM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] At NAB, Rosenblum lofted citezen journalist (VT Student who shot phone video) as the future of TV news. I spoke with Jamal Albarghouti by phone today and he has a refreshingly pragmatic view of his role in the media.  http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/05/01/...ssional-media/ [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Ronsenblum Citizen Journo Says Traditional TV Vital - b-roll.net FORUM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronsenblum Citizen Journo Says Traditional TV Vital - b-roll.net FORUM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Ronsenblum Citizen Journo Says Traditional TV Vital     Michael Rosenblum lofted Jamal Albarghouti on a pillar as the future of TV News. In my phone/email interview with him he was much more pragmatic.  http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/05/01/...ssional-media/ [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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