Comments on: Josh Wolf, the Blogger Code of Ethics and the Title of Journalist http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/ Jim Long blogs at the intersection of old and new media Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:23:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: [videoblogging] Josh Wolf Provides Context to his Kevin Sites Interview http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-5001 [videoblogging] Josh Wolf Provides Context to his Kevin Sites Interview Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:36:50 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-5001 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for [...]

]]> By: Jim Long http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-2143 Jim Long Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:44:57 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-2143 Michael,<br><br>Kevin Sites continues in that <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6556034/" rel="nofollow">tradition.</a><br><br>I'll say it again: It takes far more strength and courage to tell the truth when it flys in the face of what you believe.<br><br>Oh, and make sure you stop by and say hi to Tim Russert out at NAB. ;-) Michael,

Kevin Sites continues in that tradition.

I'll say it again: It takes far more strength and courage to tell the truth when it flys in the face of what you believe.

Oh, and make sure you stop by and say hi to Tim Russert out at NAB. ;-)

]]> By: Rosenblum TV » Oatmeal http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-2089 Rosenblum TV » Oatmeal Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:20:09 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-2089 [...] the past two days I have been involved in simultaneous discussions both on b-roll.net and vergenewmedia.com: what is a [...] [...] the past two days I have been involved in simultaneous discussions both on b-roll.net and vergenewmedia.com: what is a [...]

]]> By: Oatmeal « Rosenblumtv http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-157 Oatmeal « Rosenblumtv Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:52:17 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-157 [...] the past two days I have been involved in simultaneous discussions both on b-roll.net and vergenewmedia.com: what is a [...] [...] the past two days I have been involved in simultaneous discussions both on b-roll.net and vergenewmedia.com: what is a [...]

]]> By: Jim Long http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Jim Long Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:02:43 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-153 Michael, I'll just say you're generous in your a assessement of this little blog and the blogger, and I'll forego taking the bait on the comparison to any Presidential candidates. ;-) Michael,

I’ll just say you’re generous in your a assessement of this little blog and the blogger, and I’ll forego taking the bait on the comparison to any Presidential candidates. ;-)

]]> By: Rosenblum http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-152 Rosenblum Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:12:48 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-152 Jim I have to take issue with you. This blog (yours) is very much journalism and that is a good thing. It goes back to the strongest roots of journalism, and of authorship (Something that has been largely lost in our corporate television universe). Somewhere along the line we picked up the curious idea that 'journalism' was all about... oatmeal. Banal, edgeless, lacking in opinion. The perfect definition of insipid. Journalism rather has its roots in people railing with a very strong opinion and point of view. The whole idea of a free press is to allow all to express all sides - not one corporate voice to express 'all sides'. Ya just can't do that with any conviction - you end up sounding like Hillary Clinton or John McCain. Jim
I have to take issue with you. This blog (yours) is very much journalism and that is a good thing. It goes back to the strongest roots of journalism, and of authorship (Something that has been largely lost in our corporate television universe). Somewhere along the line we picked up the curious idea that ‘journalism’ was all about… oatmeal. Banal, edgeless, lacking in opinion. The perfect definition of insipid. Journalism rather has its roots in people railing with a very strong opinion and point of view. The whole idea of a free press is to allow all to express all sides – not one corporate voice to express ‘all sides’. Ya just can’t do that with any conviction – you end up sounding like Hillary Clinton or John McCain.

]]> By: Enric http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-146 Enric Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:54:19 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-146 For those that view in terms of politics, the social aspects of Web 2.0 and continued widespread adoption of the net is a new opportunity for politics. They'll work selflessly for the good of the weak and maligned. Trial balloons for codes of governance will seek consensus. On the other hand, it'll be more difficult to form pressure groups since the interactions on the web are mainly individual and tend to be based on intellect. The question will be how much of their own freedom people will be willing to give up to make the internet safe for others. For those that view in terms of politics, the social aspects of Web 2.0 and continued widespread adoption of the net is a new opportunity for politics. They’ll work selflessly for the good of the weak and maligned. Trial balloons for codes of governance will seek consensus. On the other hand, it’ll be more difficult to form pressure groups since the interactions on the web are mainly individual and tend to be based on intellect. The question will be how much of their own freedom people will be willing to give up to make the internet safe for others.

]]> By: Jim Long http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Jim Long Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:16:41 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-145 Michael, Kevin Sites continues in that <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6556034/" rel="nofollow">tradition.</a> I'll say it again: It takes far more strength and courage to tell the truth when it flys in the face of what you believe. Oh, and make sure you stop by and say hi to Tim Russert out at NAB. ;-) Michael,

Kevin Sites continues in that tradition.

I’ll say it again: It takes far more strength and courage to tell the truth when it flys in the face of what you believe.

Oh, and make sure you stop by and say hi to Tim Russert out at NAB. ;-)

]]> By: Rosenblum http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Rosenblum Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:22:36 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-143 Some of our best journalists have been 'activists'. HL Mencken was certainly an activist, and I like his definition of the task of a journalist - to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable. A good journalist will always be making someone (hopefully those in power) uncomfortable. David Halberstam made the Johnson Administration very uncomfortable when he was reporting from Saigon, so much so that Johnson asked Punch Sulzberger to withdraw Halberstam from the post. Halberstam's year long rotation was actually coming to an end anyway, so Sulzberger extended him for another year. In this country, unlike many others, we don't license journalists. That is what a free press is all about. Anyone may call themselves journalists - you may not think they are a journalist, which is fine. That's what free speech is all about. It, fortunately, does not need anyone's approval. The day it does, it is no longer free. Some of our best journalists have been ‘activists’. HL Mencken was certainly an activist, and I like his definition of the task of a journalist – to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable. A good journalist will always be making someone (hopefully those in power) uncomfortable. David Halberstam made the Johnson Administration very uncomfortable when he was reporting from Saigon, so much so that Johnson asked Punch Sulzberger to withdraw Halberstam from the post. Halberstam’s year long rotation was actually coming to an end anyway, so Sulzberger extended him for another year. In this country, unlike many others, we don’t license journalists. That is what a free press is all about. Anyone may call themselves journalists – you may not think they are a journalist, which is fine. That’s what free speech is all about. It, fortunately, does not need anyone’s approval. The day it does, it is no longer free.

]]> By: jonny goldstein http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-142 jonny goldstein Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:03:02 +0000 http://vergenewmedia.com/2007/04/12/josh-wolf-the-blogger-code-of-ethics-and-the-title-of-journalist/#comment-142 I think that O'Reilly ran into trouble with his proposal for several reasons. 1) Lot's of people have preexisting beefs with him for a myriad of reasons 2) The badge he proposed (a sheriff's badge) rubbed some people the wrong way---seemed very heavy handed. 3)People didn't see his proposal as discussion guidelines for his particular blog, they saw it as an attempt to regulate speech across the blogosphere. I think that O’Reilly ran into trouble with his proposal for several reasons.

1) Lot’s of people have preexisting beefs with him for a myriad of reasons
2) The badge he proposed (a sheriff’s badge) rubbed some people the wrong way—seemed very heavy handed.
3)People didn’t see his proposal as discussion guidelines for his particular blog, they saw it as an attempt to regulate speech across the blogosphere.

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